Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Tout ce qui concerne le logiciel original et sa sauvegarde avec entre autre la régénération des disquettes ou autres supports physiques.

Modérateurs : Papy.G, fneck, Carl

Répondre
German10
Messages : 20
Inscription : 17 janv. 2022 08:38

Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par German10 »

Hello everyone.

I have the questions related to Multiplan 4.2.
4.2 was the last released European Multiplan (1989-1990).
I'm come across to only 4.2 French(France)-version, no more languages, but I heard about EN and DE versions.

My questions:
1) FR-version are use a copy protection. It's a common situation to Microsoft France-software from late 80s (Excel 2.1FR, Word 4.0FR, WinWord 1.1FR/1.1a FR are use protection too).
Some the unconfirmed sources talking, that another 4.2 versions used protection too.
Know someone about EN/DE versions? It's true or don't?

2) Some the (unconfirmed) sources talking about 4.1 version too.
I know only about the Kanji-Japanese 4.11 version, don't any another.
European 4.1 is the myth too, or true does exist minor update for 4.01/4.01A?

3) Does exist the FR-versions of Multiplan 4.0/4.01, or don't? If yes, used it's the copy protection too, or don't (the English-version don't).

Thank you for any answers.

Best regards.

–German.
Dernière modification par German10 le 16 oct. 2022 13:06, modifié 1 fois.
German10
Messages : 20
Inscription : 17 janv. 2022 08:38

Re: Question about Multiplan

Message par German10 »

Hi.

Sorry for the double-post.

I'm trying to made list French versions of Multiplan.
There are currently three versions available online:
1.07 – Thomson OEM, for TO8, TO8D, TO9+ computers
1.20 – IBM OEM
2.01a – version for DOS with copy protection, working (SCP images)
3.01N – network version
3.04 – version for DOS with copy protection
4.20 – version for DOS and OS/2 with copy protection.

I'm sure there were other French versions.
For example, there are international versions 1.10, 2.02, 2.03, 3.03, 3.04 (confirmed), and 4.01. I think they were also released in French, but have not yet been found.
There could be other versions.

I want to find:
– Screenshots and photos of disks of other versions not yet found.
– Disk images or files of unknown versions.

If you have any Multiplan disks please check them out.
Some versions are labeled in a non-obvious way.

One more question.
Has anyone met the French localization of Chart for DOS?

Best regards.
–German

P.S. I renamed the theme because I expanded it. Sorry
Dernière modification par German10 le 14 mai 2023 11:44, modifié 4 fois.
Daniel
Messages : 17288
Inscription : 01 mai 2007 18:30
Localisation : Vaucluse
Contact :

Re: Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par Daniel »

Multiplan en français existe aussi pour Thomson TO8, TO8D et TO9+
http://dcmoto.free.fr/programmes/multiplan/index.html

01.png
01.png (838 octets) Consulté 6645 fois
Daniel
L'obstacle augmente mon ardeur.
German10
Messages : 20
Inscription : 17 janv. 2022 08:38

Re: Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par German10 »

Daniel a écrit : 16 oct. 2022 15:57 Multiplan en français existe aussi pour Thomson TO8, TO8D et TO9+
http://dcmoto.free.fr/programmes/multiplan/index.html


01.png
Thank you!
Added to the list
Avatar de l’utilisateur
Silou78
Messages : 382
Inscription : 11 févr. 2017 14:54
Localisation : Yvelines (78)

Re: Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par Silou78 »

Hello,
While testing a few floppy disks with a Thomson TO16 PC-XT compatible, I discovered that a copied floppy have Multiplan 3 Fr on it.

This is the backup of the floppies (first one is program disk, second one is utility disk) :
Multiplan_30_FR.zip
(664.69 Kio) Téléchargé 70 fois
*.IMD => backup with ImageDisk 1.18
*.BIN => .IMD converted to .BIN with ImageDisk

I did not manage to install Multiplan on HDD nor use it directly with floppy. It seems protected...
Sylvain
Avatar de l’utilisateur
fneck
Site Admin
Messages : 17389
Inscription : 01 avr. 2007 12:03
Localisation : Drôme Provençale (26)
Contact :

Re: Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par fneck »

C'est une curieuse idée de convertir une image de disquette en .BIN :?
Pour un emploi plus simple, on pourra renommer en .IMG
Fabien https://www.system-cfg.com
Les bonnes pratiques de l'utilisateur du forum viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3
Avatar de l’utilisateur
Silou78
Messages : 382
Inscription : 11 févr. 2017 14:54
Localisation : Yvelines (78)

Re: Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par Silou78 »

En effet c'est peu courant, c'est ImageDisk qui propose de nommer ainsi l'export 'raw binary' en .BIN
On peut aussi renommer les .BIN en .IMA et les ouvrir dans WinImage par exemple (contrairement au format .IMD qui n'est pas reconnu par WinImage).
Sylvain
German10
Messages : 20
Inscription : 17 janv. 2022 08:38

Re: Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par German10 »

Silou78 a écrit : 01 nov. 2022 19:10 Multiplan_30_FR.zip
Hello.
It's the amazing find!
It's actually version 3.04, PROGRAM disk dated by 08/01/1988.
UTILS disk dated by 07/01/1987. I think, the UTILS disk got from earlier version (may be 3.03).
Microsoft sometimes didn't update the supplemental disks in minor releases. The version 3.04 was last European/USA Multiplan 3.
I did not manage to install Multiplan on HDD nor use it directly with floppy. It seems protected...
Yes, you're right.
It's used the copy protection.
For some reason, many Microsoft products of those years for France were copy protected (I know about WinWord 1.1, 1.1a, Excel 2.1, Word for DOS 4).
If I'm right, then there is the same protection.
I will try to emulate it with one trick.
If it works, I'll tell you how to do it.
Did you image from original disks or from backup disks?

Thank you so much for this rare version!
Avatar de l’utilisateur
Silou78
Messages : 382
Inscription : 11 févr. 2017 14:54
Localisation : Yvelines (78)

Re: Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par Silou78 »

Hello,
The image comes from backup disks (with write protection sticker on)
I have created the image before trying to use the backup disk to install Multiplan.
Sylvain
jvernet
Messages : 2453
Inscription : 12 avr. 2007 10:59
Localisation : France 69
Contact :

Re: Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par jvernet »

This copie was already used, and need to be cracked to work.
A while back I had the trick to remove the mark that the disk was already used, forgot how... It seems that there is a special sector that need to be changed...
German10
Messages : 20
Inscription : 17 janv. 2022 08:38

Re: Question about Multiplan and French Multiplan list

Message par German10 »

Hi all.

There is a new find related to this topic.
Thanks to callmejack from the WWPC forum.
I think you will be interested.
French version of Multiplan 2.01a!

There are some oddities:
– The program version number is indicated as 2.00 (no 2.01, no 2.01a)
– Dates of files 01/01/1980.

In fact, it looks strange. However, it is the French Multiplan 2 that works.

Disk images and manuals: https://forum.winworldpc.com/discussion ... 60k#latest

Regards.
Répondre