Purchasing a TO7/70

[jonesypeter]

Hi,

I'm in the UK and am considering purchasing a TO7/70. Any tips of what to check for when purchasing from eBay would be most useful.

I obviously want to check a BASIC Cartridge is included.

During my investigations I have found that some have dark (TO7 type keys), others light colour full keys. What's the difference please?





Finally, does the TO7/70 have SCART?

Thanks

[Ythunder]

Hi

It has no difference except the kind of keyboard.
To7-70 have a SCART.

(but there's a difference between a TO7 and a TO7-70)

[Daniel]

The TO7/70 comes with a mechanical keyboard or a rubber keyboard. The mechanical keyboard is like a desktop keyboard, the rubber keyboard is like a laptop keyboard. It is very different and much better than the TO7's touch sensitive keyboard.

[jonesypeter]

Did the TO7/70 ship with BASIC 1.0 as default? I'm surprised at this, as it doesn't seem to support the 16 colours from BASIC. Was BASIC 128 an optional extra?

Thanks

[Markerror]

I am not a TO specialist, but I think the To7/70 can use only Basic 1.0. Basic 128 has been selled with the "next" Thomson génération (To9, Mo6).

The "rubber" keyboard is to me nicer than the mechanical one, but less easy to use...

[Ythunder]

yes, that's it..
BASIC 1.0 when you bought the Computer.
BASIC 128 was a software sold like other software : no pack computer+soft sold together as I can remember..

[Ythunder]

I am not a TO specialist, but I think the To7/70 can use only Basic 1.0. Basic 128 has been selled with the "next" Thomson génération (To9, Mo6).

Not for me : it was from the generation at the TO7-70.

So ?

[jonesypeter]

Thanks everyone. It seems very odd to supply a computer with a version of BASIC that didn't support the new extended features of the machine.

I suppose it's like the Texas Instruments TI-99 with it's optional extended BASIC

I use BASIC 128 when emulating the TO7/70 in the excellent dcmoto.

[Leraptor06]

Hello,
You could make your own choice.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7086
6502man can supply one I guess.
Thanks

[Daniel]

I am not a TO specialist, but I think the To7/70 can use only Basic 1.0. Basic 128 has been selled with the "next" Thomson génération (To9, Mo6).

This is not true. The BASIC 128 was designed especially for the TO7/70. It allows to use all the memory of the computer, which BASIC 1.0 does not allow.
The BASIC 1.0 was used with the TO7/70 for compatibility with old TO7 programs.

[__sam__]

Hello,
You could make your own choice.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7086

There is also the MegaROM T2 which provides both basic 1.0 and 128 as well as many other softwares.

[Markerror]

This is not true. The BASIC 128 was designed especially for the TO7/70. It allows to use all the memory of the computer, which BASIC 1.0 does not allow. The BASIC 1.0 was used with the TO7/70 for compatibility with old TO7 programs.

Mon To7/70 (qui d'ailleurs merdouille, grrr... ) a une cartouche Basic 1.0, d'où ma méprise. Le Basic (1.0 ou 128) était fourni d'office avec le To7/70 ou il fallait l'acheter à part ?

[Daniel]

Le BASIC était une option pour le TO7/70 comme pour le TO7.
L'acheteur était obligé de passer à la caisse car l'ordinateur est inutilisable sans MEMO7.
Il fallait choisir dans la logithèque, alors, entre Gérez Vos Fiches et le BASIC, le choix est vite fait
Le BASIC 128 devait être beaucoup plus cher que le BASIC 1.0, c'est peut-être pourquoi il est moins répandu.

[EDIT] Après vérification, la différence de prix n'est pas énorme :
- 490 F pour le Basic 1.0
- 550 F pour le Basic 128

Après les premiers TO7/70 vendus sans MEMO7, il y a eu plusieurs packs promotionnels dans lesquels une MEMO7 BASIC était incluse. Je ne sais pas si c'était 1.0 ou 128, ça doit dépendre du type de pack.

[Markerror]

Merci Daniel, je comprends mieux Etonnant quand même que le Basic 128 n'ait pas été fourni directement avec le To7/70. A cette époque, c'était déjà une pratique d'un autre temps que d'acheter une machine sans le Basic intégré.

[jonesypeter]

490 or 550 French Francs seems exceptionally good value Daniel. At the time the British pound was worth around 10 French Francs so that's around the equivalent of £49 to £55 British pounds. At the same time the Sinclair Spectrum was £125 British Pounds.

Were the machines subsidised by your Government could I ask?

Thanks