Purchasing a TO7/70

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These were the prices for the basic cartridges alone, not the whole machine which were around 5000ff IIRC.
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Thanks Samuel,

Now it's clear. Wow, that must have been a lot for families to afford in the 80s.
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Yes. That's why Thomson created the MO5 microcomputer, which was less expensive. The TO7-70 was marketed as "semi-professional", whatever that means. The MO5 was entry, educational and the TO9 was "professional", but honestly, they are all the same machine in terms of pure computational power with some subtle differences (size of ram or graphic resolution).

The TO7-70 in the last years would always come with the BASIC 1.0 cartridge. The BASIC 128 has always been an extra.

Mentioned earlier, but let me emphasize that the TO7 and the TO7-70 are very different machines in terms of hardware; sadly people often mix them.
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Fool-DupleX a écrit : 31 août 2022 12:51 Mentioned earlier, but let me emphasize that the TO7 and the TO7-70 are very different machines.
Thank you. I always think 8 colours v 16 colours and more free memory.
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Yes, correct. Up to 32 KB RAM on the TO7, but up to 112 KB on the TO7-70.
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Fool-DupleX a écrit : 31 août 2022 12:51sadly people often mix them.
Well, between a TO7 and a TO7-70 people see what is on the screen, and is there so much difference then ?
(more programs so cause of the memory ok, but instead of that ?)

So, that's why people mixed the two computers, no ? (and the common name "TO7" in the two versions of the computer)
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One of the boot screen shows TO7
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The other TO7/70
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It seem people can’t read correctly :D
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__sam__ a écrit : 31 août 2022 21:03 It seem people can’t read correctly :D
If it is for me, I'm talking while computer is working, showing..
So under BASIC or running a program.
As running a Mo5 and a more expansive To7-70 : sorry, but by the result on a screen, it's the same...
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I think the main issue for non-conoisseurs is that the two machines are aesthetically very similar. It's true also that the software is compatible and the pure computational power is identical.

But the TO7-70 has 16 colors, 8x more RAM (The base TO7 has only 8 KB, the base TO7-70 has 64 KB) and the lightpen resolution is 320x200 on the TO7-70 but only 40x200 on the TO7. Also, the TO7-70 hardware is much more reliable and allows for video inlaying, which can't be done with the TO7.

My point being : you do not want to actually buy a TO7 thinking you made a great deal on a TO7-70. The TO7-70 had much more software available than the TO7 and if that software needs more than 8 KB RAM and 16 colours, you're basically screwed with the TO7, it will not run at all.
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